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New competition for national teams (8)

ng BABA NLA >> monday december 10 - 11:58

I think a new competition should be introduce for national teams where national will make use of player playing their trade in club which come from the national team league. 

Like it is done in Africa for Chan 

I also believe it is time for age grade competition in national teams  like under 21 under 19 and maybe under 17 

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pl MAT >> monday december 10 - 13:56

U24 be nice (under 24 years)

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ro Andrei >> monday december 10 - 14:32
It's been mentioned several times that there won't be U21 national teams.
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ee Balthazor >> tuesday december 11 - 05:33

I remember that main argument against u21 NT-s was too big advantage for players, who reach there (getting more xp and so bigger chance to get earlier to big NT shortlist) and are already more talented or born younger. There can help maybe all u21 matches played in test match mode (without getting any xp). Another problem would be finding managers, when we have around 30 countries every time that get no candidates for voting. Every youth NT will multiply need for managers with VIP ready to manage NT.

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ph meow the cat >> tuesday december 11 - 11:27

@Balthazor What if the senior NT managers are compromised of VIP managers and the Youth NT with no-VIP status but should have criteria? Wouldn't be bad...

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ee onuelver >> tuesday december 11 - 15:18

In what days should be u21 NT matches? Same as olds? There are u21 league matches on those days mainly and some (oldies) team may have trouble if some of u21 players can't play u21 league.

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nl Vincent de Boer >> tuesday december 11 - 16:25

I do not see any point in U21 matches. What would you want to achieve with it?

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ee Balthazor >> wednesday december 12 - 19:12

I suspect that if u21 NT matches will not give additional xp as big NT-s, only motivator for managers would be possible trophy of u21 world/continental champion. Currently remarkable amount of managers want to guide NT just for boosting their own player(for me there is some barrier to play my own player in NT, so I do it only when I'm sure he is worth it). Maybe someone not enough brave to start from any big NT can get some courage after u21 NT manager career, but we have always plenty of unwanted countries that are happy if just someone normal will pick it.

In real life there are several series of youth championships, but mostly we don't know that player X has been youth world champion. In Europe they are mostly from southern countries as their youngsters are more acelerants comparing to northern youngsters. Meanwhile many u18 champions are later nobody in domestic level, once I looked for a Spanish youth team, where many of them spent their later career mostly in Segunda or Segunda B without any Primera experience...

Quite surely there would be very goalful matches as typical u21 keepers are around 7-8* but fieldplayers 10+*. It would also force managers to train earlier necessary attributes to their youth stars, at least couple of seasons ago half of loan-out players I checked for my second team had no trained attributes at ages 21-23.

I don't see room for different youth classes like u17 and u19 because smaller countries have no enough decent players then. Several big NT-s have problems with some positions, having no decent keeper, winger , DM etc. For example Austrian NT has more than half of players just from 3 local clubs who concentrate more for Austrian players as they have better facilities. Result: mid-ranked league in Europe and one of weakest NT-s in whole RS. 

This is my quite neutral view to youth NT topic: it would be interesting, but I don't think it "must be" and I see problems with that.

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