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eng Dragontao >> thursday january 13 - 21:17

Well FF has done his bit to make sure a fair few aren't ever going to be in the top 50.

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wal Numpty >> thursday january 13 - 21:26

You guys just need to learn to share more.

It's not fair if all your hard work and effort isn't going to benefit the club jumpers. What kind of game are we playing if they don't get their fair share of clubs to destroy?

Reminds me of the old joke about socialism... the trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. 

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eng Dragontao >> friday january 14 - 08:25

Lol, Djokovic has had his visa cancelled again. Advantage Aus.

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wal Numpty >> friday january 14 - 11:20, Edited friday january 14 - 11:24

I've been following the Novax case today. The legal process has just restarted with a directions hearing.

It seems that the immigration minister has conceded all the previous points on his entry - and that he poses little or no health risk due to not being vaccinated. 

But has now decided to cancel the visa on the grounds of his public position on vaccination - that by remaining in the country he poses a health risk because he might or will encourage others not to get vaccinated. 

That sounds very much like a political decision and he's being deported because of his opinions.  The case will probably swing on whether the judge believes the minister has the power to cancel the visa on those grounds.

In the meantime they are deciding on the legal timetable and what happens to Novax while it continues. Seems like he's going to be detained tomorrow (Saturday) morning. Australian time.

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au davo >> friday january 14 - 13:28, Edited friday january 14 - 13:57

If it is not sorted out on Sunday, my guess is that, if the judge believes Novak has a case, he will give him a bridging visa that allows him to play. He will then either schedule a hearing for a day that he knows Novak is not playing, or afer the AO.

My personal view is that this is a very misguided thing for an unpopular governement, a few months out from an election, with skyrocketing Covid cases, to be hanging their hats on. They seem to be trying to deflect attention from the fact that the vaccine that they have mandated isn't stopping people catching covid, and that they are just trying the "let it rip" method to see if that works.

Showing this supposed concern that "everyone has to follow the rules to keep us safe" seems to be working, as far as deflecting attention goes - but they seem to have forgotten that there is no actual way to come out of this looking good. They should have just accepted the judge's initial ruling, blamed the immigration department and been thankful that they had a way out.

There is every chance that, not only may Novak win this battle, but he may win the Australia Open and become the leading men's grand slam winner. This is one hell of a story and will undoubtledy become a movie. By which time, the idiocy of our government's policies will be known and this entire country will (justifiably) be seen as a laughing stock. To be honest, there's enough of a chequered past here without this.

Even if he plays and doesn't win, or if he gets deported and banned from returning for 3 years, it is still going to be a reasonable story.

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wal Numpty >> friday january 14 - 14:15, Edited friday january 14 - 14:24

Yeah, it's a great story for the media.

The final aspect of today's hearing was about the likely media storm at the location when he gets detained.  They obviously want to avoid that. 

My personal view is I don't really care if he plays or not, so I'm fairly impartial.

But what bothers me now is deporting him for his personal opinions. That's a very dangerous road to go down if we refuse people entry to countries around the world simply based on their opinions and convictions. 

As for being a laughing stock, I wouldn't worry too much about that, it'll soon be forgotten as the world has much bigger problems to worry about. 

After all we've got Boris. :D

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au davo >> friday january 14 - 15:01

And Andrew formally known as Prince...although technically we probably have his aswell.

The same thing bothers me. I don't recall the story of the nation that persecuted the minority for their beliefs and was celebrated by the world for doing so.

Speaking of Boris's, I probably haven't watched more than a handful of games of tennis since Boris Becker won Wimbledon for the first time, but I really want Djokovic to be able to play and to win the title. I respect his commitment to his principles, and the dodgy way he has tried to circumvent the rules with the childish simplicity that ignores the fact that pretty much his every move is documented.

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wal Numpty >> friday january 14 - 15:48

Both formally Prince and maybe formerly Prince. :D

His alleged misdemeanours don't surprise me atl all.  I've heard a few  second hand accounts from people who knew him personally. Both from his school days and also his time in the navy. None of them are good. 

I do think Djokovic makes himself a little bit of an easier target because he's not terribly popular. In similar circumstances I doubt if Federer or Nadal would be treated in quite the same way. 

Strange how things can change though. I remember when McEnroe was doing the 'brat thing', but now he's the darling of the British media. And the other Boris has somehow recovered from his escapade in the broom cupboard. :)

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ee Taavi >> friday january 14 - 19:05

https://rockingsoccer.com/en/soccer/info/match-21267211

Gordon Hayward had a stellar performance! We got the W so we will let him play some basketball in the evening as a bonus.

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eng Dragontao >> friday january 14 - 19:44

Actually, Andrew gets to keep both the Prince (or should that be nonce) and Duke of York title. He just loses the right to be known as HRH if I have read it correctly. Gets to keep his earned military ramk, but loses all honorary ranks. 

Speaking of his time in the Navy, he was based near where I live for a while. He, along with a few of his officer chums walked into the pub we used to go in after our matches on a Sunday morning.

We were sat at our normal tables discussing the game, when he and his chums wandered over and said "would you mind moving so we can sit down". Our goalkeeper, Keith - a man of few words, spoke for all of us when he simply said "f**k off". At least the arrogant entitled tw*t had the good grace to do as instructed.

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eng Stephen >> friday january 14 - 20:53

I'm surprised this encounter didn't make it into that interview with Emily Maitlis

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wal Numpty >> friday january 14 - 21:06, Edited friday january 14 - 21:13

He gets to keep his titles ... for now. It remains to be seen what happens if/when he loses the case.

I expect there'll be a new version of 'The Grand Old Duke of York' ... can't imagine what they'll do with

'... when they were only halfway up they were neither up nor down.' 

Years ago I had a friend who'd been in school with him. 'Arrogant and entitled' would probably be a fair summary of his opinion. 

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au davo >> Yesterday - 02:12

It will be interesting to see the results of this. Essentially his victim is no different to many young girls who are dragged into prostitution. The only difference is the amount of money that her pimp and her clients have. I fully get the pimp being charged, had he not "killed himself" and the "madame" being locked up...but surely as a punter and someone who has lived a very sheltered, entitled life, he would have been oblivious to anything he was doing wrong - and if she were any decent kind of hooker, she would not have bored him with the details. As far as he is concerned he was shagging a 17 year old girl who was up for it.

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eng Dragontao >> Yesterday - 03:28

It's probably a case of her having to prove he knew she'd been trafficked. Every chance he didn't. The photo that seems a major part of the case seems to show her as being relaxed and happy.

Of course we don't know what else went on.

You want the perpetrators brought to justice but where these are historical cases and large sums of money are changing hands in confidentiality agreements and payoffs, with the likelihood of there being very little physical evidence after so long, I'm sometimes a tad sceptical.

So we'll see what other evidence is presented in court but whatever happens, it certainly doesn't reflect well on him and what reputation he had is in the toilet for good...

... and the Grand Old Duke of York Song arf @ Numpty.

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au davo >> Yesterday - 06:49

I'm a little concerned at how many of the 10,000 men that he's "had" were trafficked...

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