np Damak contre np Lahan

Amical
mardi novembre 26 - 09:34
Affluence: 0
1/GK
0 - 0
Statistiques <!-- ADVANCEDSETTINGSSHORT -->
Revenir en arrière
Pause
Jouer
Accélérer
Passer
-
Retour
Avancer
Préparation:
  • TGUgbWF0Y2ggc2UgdGVybWluZSBzdXIgdW4gbnVsLg==
  • PHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9InJlcG9ydC1taW51dGUiID44ODwvc3Bhbj4uIDxzcGFuIGNsYXNzPSJhd2F5IiA+Q2hhZGhhciAoMyk8L3NwYW4+IGludGVyY2VwdGUgdW5lIHBhc3NlIGRlIDxzcGFuIGNsYXNzPSJob21lIiA+UmFiZ2F5ICg5KTwvc3Bhbj4uIExhIGJhbGxlIGVzdCBwb3VyIDxzcGFuIGNsYXNzPSJhd2F5IiA+TGFoYW48L3NwYW4+Lg==
  • PHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9InJlcG9ydC1taW51dGUiID44Nzwvc3Bhbj4uIEF2ZWMgYmVhdWNvdXAgZGUgc2FuZyBmcm9pZCwgbGUgZ2FyZGllbiBhcnImZWNpcmM7dGUgY2UgcHVpc3NhbnQgdGlyIGRlIDxzcGFuIGNsYXNzPSJhd2F5IiA+TGFoYW48L3NwYW4+Lg==
  • TGUgcXVhdHJpJmVncmF2ZTttZSBhcmJpdHJlIGFubm9uY2UgPHN0cm9uZyA+MTwvc3Ryb25nPiBtaW51dGUocykgZGUgdGVtcHMgYWRkaXRpb25uZWwuIA==
  • PHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9InJlcG9ydC1taW51dGUiID44NDwvc3Bhbj4uIEJlbCBhcnImZWNpcmM7dCBwb3VyIDxzcGFuIGNsYXNzPSJob21lIiA+RGFtYWs8L3NwYW4+LiA8c3BhbiBjbGFzcz0iYXdheSIgPk5nYWImb3VtbDsgKDEwKTwvc3Bhbj4gbidhIHBhcyByJmVhY3V0ZTt1c3NpICZhZ3JhdmU7IHRyb21wZXIgbGUgZ2FyZGllbiBkZSBidXQu
  • PHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9InJlcG9ydC1taW51dGUiID44MDwvc3Bhbj4uIFVuIHRpciBkZSA8c3BhbiBjbGFzcz0iYXdheSIgPk5nYWImb3VtbDsgKDEwKTwvc3Bhbj4gZmluaXQgZGFucyBsZXMgZ2FudHMgZHUgZ2FyZGllbiBkZSBidXQu
  • PHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9InJlcG9ydC1taW51dGUiID43OTwvc3Bhbj4uIDxzcGFuIGNsYXNzPSJob21lIiA+QmhhbmRhcmkgKDEwKTwvc3Bhbj4gbidhIHBhcyB2dSB2ZW5pciA8c3BhbiBjbGFzcz0iYXdheSIgPkNoYWRoYXIgKDMpPC9zcGFuPiBxdWkgc2Ugc2Fpc2l0IGR1IGJhbGxvbi4=
  • PHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9InJlcG9ydC1taW51dGUiID43Nzwvc3Bhbj4uIDxzcGFuIGNsYXNzPSJob21lIiA+VGh1a3RlbiAoMTQpPC9zcGFuPiBpbnRlcmNlcHRlIGwmYWdyYXZlOyB1bmUgZGFuZ2VyZXVzZSBwYXNzZSBkZSA8c3BhbiBjbGFzcz0iYXdheSIgPk1vaGFtbWFkIEFzbGFtICg5KTwvc3Bhbj4u
  • PHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9InJlcG9ydC1taW51dGUiID43MTwvc3Bhbj4uIDxzcGFuIGNsYXNzPSJhd2F5IiA+Q2hhZGhhciAoMyk8L3NwYW4+IGludGVyY2VwdGUgdW5lIHBhc3NlIGRlIDxzcGFuIGNsYXNzPSJob21lIiA+UmFiZ2F5ICg5KTwvc3Bhbj4uIExhIGJhbGxlIGVzdCBwb3VyIDxzcGFuIGNsYXNzPSJhd2F5IiA+TGFoYW48L3NwYW4+Lg==
  • PHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9InJlcG9ydC1taW51dGUiID43MDwvc3Bhbj4uIDxzcGFuIGNsYXNzPSJob21lIiA+S3VzYWdyYSAoMyk8L3NwYW4+IGQmZWFjdXRlO2xpdnJlIHVuIHRyJmVncmF2ZTtzIGJvbiBiYWxsb24gZGFucyBsZXMgcGllZHMgZGUgPHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9ImhvbWUiID5SYWJnYXkgKDkpPC9zcGFuPi4gUXVlbCBzcGVjdGFjbGUgIQ==
  • PHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9InJlcG9ydC1taW51dGUiID42OTwvc3Bhbj4uIDxzcGFuIGNsYXNzPSJob21lIiA+S3VzYWdyYSAoMyk8L3NwYW4+IGludGVyY2VwdGUgbGUgYmFsbG9uIHN1ciBsYSB0b3VjaGUgZGUgPHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9ImF3YXkiID5Nb2hhbW1hZCBBc2xhbSAoOSk8L3NwYW4+Lg==
  • PHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9InJlcG9ydC1taW51dGUiID42ODwvc3Bhbj4uIDxzcGFuIGNsYXNzPSJob21lIiA+TWNHdWlyZSAoMTMpPC9zcGFuPiBmYWl0IHVuZSBtYXV2YWlzZSBwYXNzZSBlbiBkaXJlY3Rpb24gZGUgPHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9ImhvbWUiID5aYW5kICg2KTwvc3Bhbj4uIExlIGJhbGxvbiBzb3J0IGVuIHRvdWNoZS4=
  • PHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9InJlcG9ydC1taW51dGUiID42Nzwvc3Bhbj4uIEJlbCBhcnImZWNpcmM7dCBwb3VyIDxzcGFuIGNsYXNzPSJob21lIiA+RGFtYWs8L3NwYW4+LiA8c3BhbiBjbGFzcz0iYXdheSIgPk5nYWImb3VtbDsgKDEwKTwvc3Bhbj4gbidhIHBhcyByJmVhY3V0ZTt1c3NpICZhZ3JhdmU7IHRyb21wZXIgbGUgZ2FyZGllbiBkZSBidXQu
  • PHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9InJlcG9ydC1taW51dGUiID41OTwvc3Bhbj4uIDxzcGFuIGNsYXNzPSJhd2F5IiA+TW9oYW1tYWQgQXNsYW0gKDkpPC9zcGFuPiBkJmVhY3V0ZTtwb3NlIGxlIGJhbGxvbiBkYW5zIGxlcyBwaWVkcyBkZSA8c3BhbiBjbGFzcz0iYXdheSIgPk5nYWImb3VtbDsgKDEwKTwvc3Bhbj4sIG1haXMgY2UgZGVybmllciBtYW5xdWUgbGEgY2libGUu
  • PHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9InJlcG9ydC1taW51dGUiID41ODwvc3Bhbj4uIDxpbWcgc3JjPSIvaW1nL21hdGNoL3Blbi1taXNzLnBuZyIgYWx0PSJQJmVhY3V0ZTtuYWx0eSBtYW5xdSZlYWN1dGU7IiB0aXRsZT0iUCZlYWN1dGU7bmFsdHkgbWFucXUmZWFjdXRlOyIgIC8+IDxzcGFuIGNsYXNzPSJob21lIiA+QmhhbmRhcmkgKDEwKTwvc3Bhbj4gcycmZWFjdXRlO2xhbmNlIGV0IHRpcmUgbGUgcCZlYWN1dGU7bmFsdHkgbWFpcyBsYSBiYWxsZSBmaWxlIGF1LWRlc3N1cy4=
  • PHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9InJlcG9ydC1taW51dGUiID41Nzwvc3Bhbj4uIDxpbWcgc3JjPSIvaW1nL21hdGNoL3llbGxvdy5wbmciIGFsdD0iQ2FydG9uIGphdW5lIiAgLz4gT2JzdHJ1Y3Rpb24gZGUgPHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9ImF3YXkiID5Ob3JidSAoMTMpPC9zcGFuPiBzdXIgPHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9ImhvbWUiID5CaGFuZGFyaSAoMTApPC9zcGFuPi4gTCdhcmJpdHJlIHNpZmZsZSBwJmVhY3V0ZTtuYWx0eSBldCBjYXJ0b24gamF1bmUuIEMnZXN0IHVuZSBzJmVhY3V0ZTt2JmVncmF2ZTtyZSBkJmVhY3V0ZTtjaXNpb24gIQ==
  • PHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9InJlcG9ydC1taW51dGUiID41Njwvc3Bhbj4uIDxzcGFuIGNsYXNzPSJob21lIiA+U2FreWEgKDgpPC9zcGFuPiBqb3VlIGxhIHRvdWNoZSByYXBpZGVtZW50IGV0IHBhc3NlIGxlIGJhbGxvbiAmYWdyYXZlOyA8c3BhbiBjbGFzcz0iaG9tZSIgPkJoYW5kYXJpICgxMCk8L3NwYW4+Lg==
  • PHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9InJlcG9ydC1taW51dGUiID41NTwvc3Bhbj4uIDxzcGFuIGNsYXNzPSJhd2F5IiA+Tm9yZ2F5ICg0KTwvc3Bhbj4gdGVudGUgZGUgciZlYWN1dGU7Y3VwJmVhY3V0ZTtyZXIgbGEgYmFsbGUgcGFzcyZlYWN1dGU7ZSBwYXIgPHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9ImhvbWUiID5NY0d1aXJlICgxMyk8L3NwYW4+IG1haXMgZWxsZSBzb3J0IGVuIHRvdWNoZS4gQydlc3QgcG91ciA8c3BhbiBjbGFzcz0iaG9tZSIgPkRhbWFrPC9zcGFuPi4=
  • PHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9InJlcG9ydC1taW51dGUiID41Mzwvc3Bhbj4uIDxzcGFuIGNsYXNzPSJob21lIiA+TWNHdWlyZSAoMTMpPC9zcGFuPiBpbnRlcmNlcHRlIGxlIGJhbGxvbiBzdXIgbGEgdG91Y2hlIGRlIDxzcGFuIGNsYXNzPSJhd2F5IiA+TW9oYW1tYWQgQXNsYW0gKDkpPC9zcGFuPi4=
  • PHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9InJlcG9ydC1taW51dGUiID41Mjwvc3Bhbj4uIDxzcGFuIGNsYXNzPSJob21lIiA+S3VzYWdyYSAoMyk8L3NwYW4+IGZhaXQgdW5lIG1hdXZhaXNlIHBhc3NlIGVuIGRpcmVjdGlvbiBkZSA8c3BhbiBjbGFzcz0iaG9tZSIgPlJhYmdheSAoOSk8L3NwYW4+LiBMZSBiYWxsb24gc29ydCBlbiB0b3VjaGUu
  • PHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9InJlcG9ydC1taW51dGUiID40ODwvc3Bhbj4uIDxzcGFuIGNsYXNzPSJhd2F5IiA+TmdhYiZvdW1sOyAoMTApPC9zcGFuPiBzZSBzYWlzaXQgZHUgYmFsbG9uIGF2ZWMgY2UgdGFjbGUgc3VyIDxzcGFuIGNsYXNzPSJob21lIiA+TGFjaG1hbiAoNSk8L3NwYW4+LiA8c3BhbiBjbGFzcz0iYXdheSIgPkxhaGFuPC9zcGFuPiBhIGxlIGJhbGxvbi4=
  • PHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9InJlcG9ydC1taW51dGUiID40NTwvc3Bhbj4uIFF1ZWwgdGFjbGUgZGUgPHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9ImhvbWUiID5SYWJnYXkgKDkpPC9zcGFuPiAhIDxzcGFuIGNsYXNzPSJhd2F5IiA+QnJpc2VubyAoMTEpPC9zcGFuPiBuJ2EgcmllbiB2dSB2ZW5pciBldCBwZXJkIGxhIGJhbGxlLg==
  • PHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9ImF3YXkiID5MYWhhbjwvc3Bhbj4gZmFpdCBsJ2VuZ2FnZW1lbnQgZXQgbGUgbWF0Y2ggY29udGludWUu
  • PHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9InJlcG9ydC1taW51dGUiID40Njwvc3Bhbj4uIDxpbWcgc3JjPSIvaW1nL21hdGNoL3N1YnN0aXR1dGlvbi5wbmciIGFsdD0iUmVtcGxhY2VtZW50IiAgLz4gPHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9ImF3YXkiID5TaGFybWlzdGhhICgxKTwvc3Bhbj4gZG9pdCBxdWl0dGVyIGxlIHRlcnJhaW4uIElsIGVzdCByZW1wbGFjJmVhY3V0ZTsgcGFyIDxzcGFuIGNsYXNzPSJhd2F5IiA+UmFiZ2F5ICgxMik8L3NwYW4+IChhdSBwb3N0ZSBkZSA8c3Ryb25nID5HSzwvc3Ryb25nPiku
  • PHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9InJlcG9ydC1taW51dGUiID40Njwvc3Bhbj4uIDxpbWcgc3JjPSIvaW1nL21hdGNoL3N1YnN0aXR1dGlvbi5wbmciIGFsdD0iUmVtcGxhY2VtZW50IiAgLz4gPHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9ImF3YXkiID5CYWhhZHVyIFRoYXBhICgyKTwvc3Bhbj4gZG9pdCBxdWl0dGVyIGxlIHRlcnJhaW4uIElsIGVzdCByZW1wbGFjJmVhY3V0ZTsgcGFyIDxzcGFuIGNsYXNzPSJhd2F5IiA+Tm9yYnUgKDEzKTwvc3Bhbj4gKGF1IHBvc3RlIGRlIDxzdHJvbmcgPkRDQjwvc3Ryb25nPiku
  • PHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9InJlcG9ydC1taW51dGUiID40Njwvc3Bhbj4uIDxpbWcgc3JjPSIvaW1nL21hdGNoL3N1YnN0aXR1dGlvbi5wbmciIGFsdD0iUmVtcGxhY2VtZW50IiAgLz4gPHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9ImhvbWUiID5Ob3RoYXphaSAoNCk8L3NwYW4+IGRvaXQgcXVpdHRlciBsZSB0ZXJyYWluLiBJbCBlc3QgcmVtcGxhYyZlYWN1dGU7IHBhciA8c3BhbiBjbGFzcz0iaG9tZSIgPk1jR3VpcmUgKDEzKTwvc3Bhbj4gKGF1IHBvc3RlIGRlIDxzdHJvbmcgPlJCPC9zdHJvbmc+KS4=
  • PHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9InJlcG9ydC1taW51dGUiID40Njwvc3Bhbj4uIDxpbWcgc3JjPSIvaW1nL21hdGNoL3N1YnN0aXR1dGlvbi5wbmciIGFsdD0iUmVtcGxhY2VtZW50IiAgLz4gPHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9ImhvbWUiID5Xb3RyaW5nICgyKTwvc3Bhbj4gZG9pdCBxdWl0dGVyIGxlIHRlcnJhaW4uIElsIGVzdCByZW1wbGFjJmVhY3V0ZTsgcGFyIDxzcGFuIGNsYXNzPSJob21lIiA+VGh1a3RlbiAoMTQpPC9zcGFuPiAoYXUgcG9zdGUgZGUgPHN0cm9uZyA+RENCPC9zdHJvbmc+KS4=
  • TGVzICZlYWN1dGU7cXVpcGVzIGZvbnQgdW5lIHBhdXNlIGRlIDxzdHJvbmcgPjE1PC9zdHJvbmc+IG1pbnV0ZShzKS4=
  • PHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9InJlcG9ydC1taW51dGUiID40NTwvc3Bhbj4uIExhIGJhbGxlIHNvcnQgZW4gdG91Y2hlIGFwciZlZ3JhdmU7cyBjZXR0ZSBwYXNzZSBtYW5xdSZlYWN1dGU7ZSBkZSA8c3BhbiBjbGFzcz0iaG9tZSIgPkNoYW1rYW5uaSAoMSk8L3NwYW4+Lg==
  • PHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9InJlcG9ydC1taW51dGUiID40NDwvc3Bhbj4uIDxzcGFuIGNsYXNzPSJhd2F5IiA+QnJpc2VubyAoMTEpPC9zcGFuPiBuJ2EgcGFzIHZ1IHZlbmlyIDxzcGFuIGNsYXNzPSJob21lIiA+Tm90aGF6YWkgKDQpPC9zcGFuPiBxdWkgc2Ugc2Fpc2l0IGR1IGJhbGxvbi4=
  • PHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9InJlcG9ydC1taW51dGUiID40MDwvc3Bhbj4uIFVuZSB0ciZlZ3JhdmU7cyBib25uZSBhY3Rpb24gZmluaXQgZW4gc29ydGllIGRlIGJ1dCBjYXIgPHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9ImF3YXkiID5Nb2hhbW1hZCBBc2xhbSAoOSk8L3NwYW4+IG5lIHBhcnZpZW50IHBhcyAmYWdyYXZlOyBnYXJkZXIgbGUgYmFsbG9uIGRhbnMgbCdhaXJlIGRlIGpldS4=
  • TGUgcXVhdHJpJmVncmF2ZTttZSBhcmJpdHJlIGFubm9uY2UgPHN0cm9uZyA+MTwvc3Ryb25nPiBtaW51dGUocykgZGUgdGVtcHMgYWRkaXRpb25uZWwuIA==
  • PHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9InJlcG9ydC1taW51dGUiID4yODwvc3Bhbj4uIFJlbWlzZSBlbiBqZXUgZGUgPHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9ImhvbWUiID5TaGFoaSAoNyk8L3NwYW4+IHBvdXIgPHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9ImhvbWUiID5LdXNhZ3JhICgzKTwvc3Bhbj4u
  • PHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9InJlcG9ydC1taW51dGUiID4yNzwvc3Bhbj4uIExhIGJhbGxlIHNvcnQgZW4gdG91Y2hlIGFwciZlZ3JhdmU7cyBjZXR0ZSBwYXNzZSBtYW5xdSZlYWN1dGU7ZSBkZSA8c3BhbiBjbGFzcz0iYXdheSIgPlNoYXJtaXN0aGEgKDEpPC9zcGFuPi4=
  • PHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9InJlcG9ydC1taW51dGUiID4yNDwvc3Bhbj4uIFJlbWlzZSBlbiBqZXUgZGUgPHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9ImhvbWUiID5TYWt5YSAoOCk8L3NwYW4+IHBvdXIgPHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9ImhvbWUiID5SYWJnYXkgKDkpPC9zcGFuPi4=
  • PHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9InJlcG9ydC1taW51dGUiID4yMzwvc3Bhbj4uIDxzcGFuIGNsYXNzPSJhd2F5IiA+Tm9yZ2F5ICg0KTwvc3Bhbj4gdGVudGUgZGUgciZlYWN1dGU7Y3VwJmVhY3V0ZTtyZXIgbGEgYmFsbGUgcGFzcyZlYWN1dGU7ZSBwYXIgPHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9ImhvbWUiID5Ob3RoYXphaSAoNCk8L3NwYW4+IG1haXMgZWxsZSBzb3J0IGVuIHRvdWNoZS4gQydlc3QgcG91ciA8c3BhbiBjbGFzcz0iaG9tZSIgPkRhbWFrPC9zcGFuPi4=
  • PHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9InJlcG9ydC1taW51dGUiID4yMTwvc3Bhbj4uIFJlbWlzZSBlbiBqZXUgZGUgPHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9ImF3YXkiID5Nb2hhbW1hZCBBc2xhbSAoOSk8L3NwYW4+IHBvdXIgPHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9ImF3YXkiID5HaGltaXJlICg3KTwvc3Bhbj4u
  • PHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9InJlcG9ydC1taW51dGUiID4yMDwvc3Bhbj4uIDxzcGFuIGNsYXNzPSJob21lIiA+Tm90aGF6YWkgKDQpPC9zcGFuPiB0ZW50ZSBkZSByJmVhY3V0ZTtjdXAmZWFjdXRlO3JlciBsYSBiYWxsZSBwYXNzJmVhY3V0ZTtlIHBhciA8c3BhbiBjbGFzcz0iYXdheSIgPk5vcmdheSAoNCk8L3NwYW4+IG1haXMgZWxsZSBzb3J0IGVuIHRvdWNoZS4gQydlc3QgcG91ciA8c3BhbiBjbGFzcz0iYXdheSIgPkxhaGFuPC9zcGFuPi4=
  • PHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9InJlcG9ydC1taW51dGUiID4xODwvc3Bhbj4uIFJlbWlzZSBlbiBqZXUgZGUgPHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9ImF3YXkiID5Nb2hhbW1hZCBBc2xhbSAoOSk8L3NwYW4+IHBvdXIgPHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9ImF3YXkiID5HaGltaXJlICg3KTwvc3Bhbj4u
  • PHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9InJlcG9ydC1taW51dGUiID4xNzwvc3Bhbj4uIDxzcGFuIGNsYXNzPSJob21lIiA+TGFjaG1hbiAoNSk8L3NwYW4+IHRlbnRlIGRlIHImZWFjdXRlO2N1cCZlYWN1dGU7cmVyIGxhIGJhbGxlIHBhc3MmZWFjdXRlO2UgcGFyIDxzcGFuIGNsYXNzPSJhd2F5IiA+Tm9yYnUgKDgpPC9zcGFuPiBtYWlzIGVsbGUgc29ydCBlbiB0b3VjaGUuIEMnZXN0IHBvdXIgPHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9ImF3YXkiID5MYWhhbjwvc3Bhbj4u
  • PHNwYW4gY2xhc3M9ImhvbWUiID5SYWJnYXkgKDkpPC9zcGFuPiBzZSB0aWVudCAmYWdyYXZlOyBjJm9jaXJjO3QmZWFjdXRlOyBzdXIgYmFsbG9uIHBvdXIgbCdlbmdhZ2VtZW50IGRlIDxzcGFuIGNsYXNzPSJob21lIiA+RGFtYWs8L3NwYW4+LiA=

Jeu gratuit de gestion de football en ligne

Il s'agit d'un match de football virtuel entre Damak et Lahan sur le jeu de management de football appelé "Rocking Soccer". Des milliers de managers sont en compétition dans ce jeu aux règles et compétitions similaires au monde réel du football mais avec des joueurs et équipes virtuels.

Rocking Soccer est un jeu de management de football en ligne. Aucun téléchargement n'est nécessaire, vous pouvez commencer de jouer immédiatement dans un monde de milliers d'autres joueurs réels.

Gérez votre propre équipe de football dans ce jeu de management de football innovant et grandissant rapidement. Agrandissez votre club, décidez de votre 11 de départ, gagnez vos matchs !

Nous sommes fiers de notre concept de jeu de haute qualité et de notre attachement aux détails réalistes. Nous sommes également le seul jeu de management de football en ligne avec un moteur de match en direct en 2D où vous pouvez voir les déplacements de vos joueurs. Est-ce que votre tactique va mener à la victoire ou à la défaite ?