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Tässä virtuaalijalkapallo-ottelussa pelaavat vastakkain Fanalamanga ja Ikongo Rocking Soccer jalkapallomanageripelissä. Tuhannet managerit kilpailevat toisiaansa vastaan oikeilla jalkapallosäännöillä ja kilpailuilla tässä pelissä, jossa on luodut joukkueet ja pelaajat.

Rocking Soccer on online-jalkapallomanageripeli. Latauksia ei tarvita, pääset heti pelaaman tuhansien toisten pelaajien kanssa.

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