Joddit >> יום שישי מרץ 22 - 13:49, ערוך שבת מרץ 23 - 00:46

After finishing first last season in the 4th tier I got promoted to the 3rd tier. 

After checking out my new league I found a familiar team there.

https://rockingsoccer.com/en/soccer/info/team-10401

This team got promoted into the 3rd tier after finishing 4th in my league last season, which is not a promotion place, nor a play-off place. Upon checking its tournament history I found out that indeed it got straight promotion after finishing 4th. 

Any thoughts as to how this is possible, because I am at a loss here. 

Numpty >> יום שישי מרץ 22 - 14:48

It seems that The Netherlands league has just been reorganised, changing from 5 levels to 4.

So I guess it's a result of that change. Maybe some of the level 3 and 4 bot teams got replaced from lower levels?

Joddit >> יום שישי מרץ 22 - 17:33

Well, I didn't mention this  but it's not a bot, even though it only technically has a manager (since he/she did not do anything with his/her team).

To be fair, I hadn't noticed the fifth tier missing, but that part is certainly true  it turns out. 

It seems however rather odd that our former number 4 got promoted for free but the number 3 didn't (failing to get promoted via the play-offs). 

Numpty >> יום שישי מרץ 22 - 19:27, ערוך יום שישי מרץ 22 - 19:46

It's likely that as part of the restructure the higher level bot teams got removed and then real managed teams get shuffled up to replace them.

It's probably the case that promoting the next in line was simpler logic than checking the playoff results, but maybe only Vincent can give a full explanation of the reasons.

EDIT

It's true that that you didn't mention that it's not a bot.  But you did say that it was a bot team in the thread title.

I've just checked the league they went into, League of The Netherlands [3.2], I've noticed that there were 2 bot teams that got relegated from non-relegation positions.

League table for last season:

https://rockingsoccer.com/en/soccer/league-nl.43/level-3/group-2

FC Middelburg #2 finished 10th and SC Maassluis finished 13th. These are now in level 4.

Joddit >> יום שישי מרץ 22 - 19:49, ערוך יום שישי מרץ 22 - 19:55

Indeed I did. My apologies for that misguided title. That was obviously my mistake.

For the record. He got promoted into 3.1, not 3.2. Maybe it was more convenient to promote the next in line, but it does seem a bit unfair. 

Edit: Changed title after Numpty's remark. 

Numpty >> יום שישי מרץ 22 - 19:55, ערוך יום שישי מרץ 22 - 20:01

Lol

I just followed the team link you gave in the first post. FC Groningen who are in 3.2 but finished 9th in 3.1, and not 4th in level 4. 

So it seems you gave the wrong link as well. 

A comedy of errors

Is this the team?

https://rockingsoccer.com/en/soccer/info/team-10401

Joddit >> שבת מרץ 23 - 00:41, ערוך שבת מרץ 23 - 00:43

That mistake I don't understand, since I had simply copied the link. Didn't check it afterwards of course, but how that could have changed I do not understand.

But yes that's the one. 

Joey Zyla >> שבת מרץ 23 - 05:41, ערוך שבת מרץ 23 - 05:58

Not only did SC Joure, as the fourth-place finisher in 4.4, get promoted ahead of third-place FC Kooistee, but also look at last season's standings in league 4.1:

https://rockingsoccer.com/en/soccer/league-nl.43/level-4/group-1

The fifth- and sixth-placed teams were promoted, while second-place ZVVS remains in the fourth tier.

And in 4.3:

https://rockingsoccer.com/en/soccer/league-nl.43/level-4/group-3

Feyenoord R (5th) was promoted, while Pixies (2nd) and FC Petje Moet Zweven (3rd) were not.

Basically it looks like the bot teams that were in the third tier last season were replaced by the highest finishing human-managed teams from the fourth tier, but excluding the teams that lost in the playoffs.

It certainly does seem unfair to the teams in the playoffs that missed out on promotion. Most likely what Numpty said:

"It's probably the case that promoting the next in line was simpler logic than checking the playoff results, but maybe only Vincent can give a full explanation of the reasons."

Joddit >> שבת מרץ 23 - 10:26

Thanks for responding all. 

So it seems weird, but there might be a decent explanation for it.