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Choose de Penalty takers (27)
Hi,
A suggestion I think easy to create :
choose the first 5 penalty takers, or the first 10, before the cup matches, in the pre-match advanced settings.
What do you think of that ?
What problem are you trying to solve?
As far as I can see the game automatically selects the best penalty takers, so any selection by the manager would be worse.
Although I guess it would be fine with me if my opponent makes a bad selection. :D
I'm not agree with you.
Can you explain to me why my goal is automatically selected in second when I have 3 other players who are penalty specialists who have not yet played?
With my players, my goal should not be selected in second, but not before 6th or 7th!
Sure, I can try and explain. Which players do you think should be selected before your keeper?
Are you referring to your last cup match?
Not only my last cup match, but yes in my last cup match :
https://rockingsoccer.com/fr/football/info/match-18238285
I changed two players by two others spécialist of penalty just before the end of the match, and I don't undestand wy my Goal go to penalty before the others players more spécialist ???
Okay, I've just looked at your match.
The two players who came on in extra time both took their penalties. Although I agree they should have been ahead of the keeper in the normal selection order.
However, according to my calculations the keeper was ranked 5th so was in the first 5.
When choosing the first 5 penalty takers in a shoot-out it makes little difference what the exact order is, since they all get to take one. (If they don't take the 5th one then it's because it doesn't matter if they score or not).
I don't know why the game chose that particular order for the first 4, but you weren't disadvantaged. There must be a logic there but I would need to look at a few other penalty shoot-outs to work it out.
Had it gone to a 5th penalty then I believe that Lung would have taken it.
This is how the game calculates the players' penalty shooting ability:
Penalty event
- If the penalty is part of a penalty shoot-out to decide a tied match then a player can also use his blocking, dueling or passing skill (minus 0.75 ball) instead of their scoring skill.
Here are your players ordered by their effective scoring ability in a penalty shoot-out.
First 5
1. K. Kaubrys - Scoring 6.18 + 1.00 (PS) = 7.18 (Took 1st penalty)
2. A. Cacaj - Scoring 5.69 + 1.00 (PS) = 6.69 (Took 3nd penalty)
3. A. Prost - Scoring 5.50 + 1.00 (PS) = 6.50 (Took 4th penalty)
4. B. Lung - Scoring 6.50 (possible -0.50 scoring malus) = 6.00
5. T. Benchetrit - Blocking 6.63 - 0.75 = 5.88 (Took 2nd penalty)
Others
6. J. Sansato - Passing 6.40 - 0.75 = 5.65
7. J. Lo - Passing 6.18 - 0.75 = 5.43
8. M. Tobel - Duelling 5.86 - 0.75 = 5.11
9. M. Crapanzano - Duelling 5.70 - 0.75 = 4.95
10. S. López Carrillo - Duelling 5.62 - 0.75 = 4.87
11. A. Fodio - Duelling 5.34 - 0.75 = 4.59
Thank you for your analysis.
However, I think that you should leave the responsibility and the choice to the player to choose his first 5 shooters, or to let the game choose alone. If the player does not indicate anything in his choice, the game is left to choose automatically, but if the player chooses his 5 shooters, it is his responsibility.
Many thanks
Best Regards
Please don't misunderstand me. I have no problem if people wish to choose their own penalty takers for a shoot-out.
My point is that any choice will be worse than the default game selection, so it would most likely be a disadvantage to those who mistakenly thought they could do a better job.
@Numpty what if the PS attribute does not apply to penalty shoot-outs and only works for penalty events during a game ?
That's a really good question @Eric.
I don't know the answer, and I've assumed that it should work in the shootouts. But maybe that's incorrect and I guess only Vincent will know unless it's on an old thread somewhere.
But if true it would be a possible explanation for the selection order. (Although this would put Lung as either 1st choice or 2nd choice - depending on the half ball Scoring malus.)
Since people do bring on players in extra time for that reason, then we should try and get an answer.
I also don't know for sure the effect of any Scoring malus resulting from goals scored during the match. Do they get a half a ball reduction in the shoot-out? Like many things in the game it's all a bit vague.
Does it take into account endurance for example if a player is 0.8 balls down because he has played 120 minutes, does it use that in it's calculation.
I skipped the midfielder with Passing 6.4 -0.75 in my reasoning. If PS did not apply during shoot-outs, he should have made it to the shooters list instead of the striker with 5.5 Scoring.
So it probably does work for both penalty event and penalty shoot-out. Or maybe as Yid said endurance shall be taken into account.
Hmmm!
Well to add to our collection of failures, I missed the fact that the midfielder Sansato had an assist, in which case his Passing gets a reduction of 0.25.
J. Sansato - Passing 6.40 - 0.75 ( -0.25 assist malus) = 5.40
If the PS special doesn't apply in the shootout (and the scoring, assist reductions are applied) then we get:
1. K. Kaubrys - Scoring 6.18 = 6.18 (Took 1st penalty)
2. B. Lung - Scoring 6.50 (possible -0.50 scoring malus) = 6.00
3. T. Benchetrit - Blocking 6.63 - 0.75 = 5.88 (Took 2nd penalty)
4. A. Cacaj - Scoring 5.69 = 5.69 (Took 3nd penalty)
5. A. Prost - Scoring 5.50 = 5.50 (Took 4th penalty)
The 4 shooters are still in the top 5.
Unfortunately that's not the full picture because Power is also a small factor, plus Endurance as mentioned by Yid. Perhaps that's the reason why Lung didn't shoot second.
I think there's too much uncertainty here and we'll probably only know if Vincent tells us.
Let's not forget about Power indeed, as it "helps a little" according to the rules section. This might make a difference when two players have little difference in their raw primary skill.
Plus there might be a random factor when the difference between two players is not significant, as it is for Set Pieces. My current midfielders are in this situation, and they seem to share set pieces rather randomly.
Still not convinced by the efficiency of P.S during shoot-outs though. Mostly because the "defenders can use dueling etc" part sounds a bit redundant.
Speed gives a small bonus in scoring too.