Grand Rapids vs. Tampa
- 1 J. ChatardGK
- 2 N. FreemanDCB
- 3 J. ZandioDCB
- 4 J. RookesLB
- 5 G. MelchorRB
- 41 K. EulerDM
- 6 E. SettleLM
- 7 H. BrockettRM
- 8 P. CollardAM
- 36 D. BlancheS
- 9 H. RavnS
- 10 T. WynantsSK
- 11 F. HarrowSB
- 12 M. BossSB
- 13 D. EiróSM
- 14 G. CouchmanSM
- 15 T. HarrisonSF
- 46 W. DavidsonGK
- 37 J. YusteDCB
- 1 I. ArutaDCB
- 39 G. VertizLB
- 36 R. ChallinorRB
- 35 T. HoskinsonDM
- 41 J. LintonLM
- 33 E. Díaz de CasriegoRM
- 38 A. TabarAM
- 40 D. RodićS
- 34 A. BoydS
- 29 J. PuringtonSK
- 43 A. ForgáchSB
- 47 T. JohnstoneSB
- 42 F. RuskSM
- 2 E. BowyerSM
- 3 I. KerikaSF
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Gratis Online Fotballtrener Spill
Dette er en virtuell fotballkamp mellom Grand Rapids og Tampa i fotball manager spillet Rocking Soccer. Tusener av managere kjemper mot hverandre i dette spillet med ekte fotballregler og cuper, men med egen lagde spillere og lag.
Rocking Soccer er et online trener spill om fotball. Ingen nedlasting er nødvendig, du kan starte å spille med en gang i en verden med tusener av ekte spillere.
Ta kontroll over ditt eget fotballag i dette innovative og hurtigvoksende fotballtrenerspillet. Utvid ditt lag, velg din lagoppstilling og vinn dine kamper!
Vi er stolte av vår høy-kvalitets spillkonsept og vårt hensyn til realistisk detaljer. Vi er også den eneste online fotball trener spillet med en 2D live kampmotor hvor du kan se dine spillere bevege seg. Vil dine taktikker lede deg til seier eller tap?