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U21 Training (or lack of) (14)

eng Lee >> monday january 25 - 19:33

I played a friendly yesterday against a team of U21 players that had not received any training except for special attributes, and I'm interested to know what the benefit of this could be (some of the players have been in the squad for 6 seasons).

https://rockingsoccer.com/en/soccer/info/match-19463478 

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ca Alex Seymour >> monday january 25 - 22:34

he's deliberately keeping his players wages low

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eng Lee >> monday january 25 - 22:45

I did wonder if that might have something to do with it but wasn't sure as the players already seem to be earning some pretty good coin.

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il Numpty >> monday january 25 - 23:51, Edited tuesday january 26 - 00:01

That doesn't work. Vincent made a change a long time ago that takes unspent xp into account when calculating wage increases. 

But if the manager mistakenly believes it works then that would still be a reason.

See the first post here:

https://rockingsoccer.com/en/soccer/forum/home-en/1?topic=79527

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eng Lee >> tuesday january 26 - 00:55

Thanks Numpty - looks like the manager does mistakenly believe it.

I'm very interested to know how much unspent xp the players have after 6 seasons!

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tr Mavi >> tuesday january 26 - 10:08

https://rockingsoccer.com/en/soccer/info/player-1962752

great example for it. Btw, I dont get the intention of manager here. So I guess at some point he will be a great keeper. 

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il Numpty >> tuesday january 26 - 10:28, Edited tuesday january 26 - 10:30

I doubt it. He seems to be training him as a defender. Maybe he changed his mind at some point. I guess not spending the xp makes that a bit easier.

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eng Lee >> tuesday january 26 - 16:26

I don't have the patience to go that long without training a player (on a side note: his wage is ridiculous).

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eng holt >> tuesday january 26 - 16:34

So the idea is to hold onto to players until a certain age and then train them just before a window, while having to dish out the same wages?

Why?

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tr Mavi >> tuesday january 26 - 17:11, Edited tuesday january 26 - 17:36

I am pretty sure he trains him as defender because he wants to avoid big keeper wages. he still has big wage though but It should be higher. Seems like he does that a lot with other players.

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gr PMK >> tuesday january 26 - 17:41

He will probably turn him into goalkeeper at the age of 30+ when the wage starts to drop

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il Numpty >> tuesday january 26 - 19:57

That's an interesting point. I guess it's possible that defender wages are lower. Maybe someone knows?

But the problem with turning him into a keeper is his position experience. It won't be easy to convert that into keeper experience. He's already used 1 positional training on making him into a defender so only has 9 left. 

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gr PMK >> tuesday january 26 - 20:03, Edited tuesday january 26 - 20:12

The player already has 1400 experience points. Probably he won't need all 9 retrainings. I think 4 are enough to reach 1000 as goalkeeper. I also believe that the amount of blocking proportionally raises  a player's wage in comparison to other skills.

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il Numpty >> tuesday january 26 - 20:11

Yes, you're right PMK. I hadn't done the maths, but I think 4 retrainings would do it.  

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