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The economy needs a boost. (92)
If anybody needs to know how completely rooted this games finances are, then look at the wages of FC Wageningen In his last game, the squad contained 7 U21 players and the total wages of that squad were about $213m per season. His total maintenance bill, once completing his YA3 will be $429m per season. Then add to that $20m worth of staff wages.
Without even giving consideration to the fact that I am just talking about his 17 man squad for the last team squad he used, that is an eyewatering $662m per season. That is without taking into account the
With a max league income of $532m and a heathy bank account interest of $80m, he might still be operating at a profit with match income from competitions for the time being, but once the wages of those youths start to rise dramatically he will definitely be operating at a huge loss.
This is what is in store for us all.
Well thats ok isnt it? If big teams would make big profits while playing with the best players it would be impossible to catch up for lesser teams.
At least that mechanism works fine
@davo
You have a choice to get ya FA to your desired level. You'll have to face the costs. Nothing about that can be changed
Oh, cool. Was it that young? Nice :)
But indeed, my expenses are pretty high and rising. That's why I said that the choice of continuing to build will have to be made pretty soon. I can afford this, and I can afford the rising salarycost of my youngsters, but that will be about it. Great players have great salaries, nobody can keep building and afford those salaries. Check my keepers salary if you want to see what one great player on the team will cost. 11 of those and all buildings is, like I said in an earlier post, simply impossible. Choices have to be made.
And no, that's not what's in store for everybody. I do a lot of work on the transfermarket to make sure I can pay for this. Only with a lot of effort in raising income is this possible. It's not a buildinggame, the point where my income and expenses are balanced is not achievable for everybody, and some teams will reach a higher level then I can. Everybody who builds on without checking if it is affordable for himself, is probably selfdestructing. Not everybody is going to be Real Madrid or PSG, able to pay for everything, every manager has a maximum of what he can achieve with his own income, and make choices.
Since Davo takes my club for reference, the exact numbers are 5,07M RSD per day (264M per season) for wages, and 8,91M RSD per day (463M per season) for maintenance according to my financial overview. Wages will, as said, raise substantially over the next few seasons. But, as it should be, the awesome players are a LOT more expensive then the good ones.
But I am not complaining about the high costs, on the contrary. I have made the choice to have one of the best keepers in the game, and it costs me. I could have chosen differently, but I didn't. I can sell my keeper, and build FA5, but then I cannot afford to have such a good keeper (again). This is the kind of choice everybody will have to make at his own level of income, and that's a GOOD thing. We have to make choices, and not build blindly beyond what we can afford, and then blame the system we don't get enough money. Nobody gets enough for everything, and nobody is entitled to have what the best manager has disregarding his own achievements.
As for a final comparison with my team: At the moment both SPL Michael Jackson and CF Real Madrid (and probably more) are able to maintain a higher average level of players, and a higher level of buildings then I can. So at the moment, they are doing a better job then I am. I'm not complaining, kudos to them, and I will have to check what they do better. I will have to improve what I do, or accept they are better managers then I am. That's how the real world works. What they are capable of might not be in store for me, and won't be for most managers. So what? It's about doing as well as you can, with choices at your own level, and finding your own best effort. Everybody who is dissatisfied with his level will have to raise his game, and not blame the system for not being handed the same as the best team.
Great post Koen
@Koen. It is a reasonable approximation though. Yes, you did great work in the TM but your best paid players have spent quite a bit of time being trained in lower training facilities and have therefore not reached the potential that the would have done if you had trained them since the start in a FA4.
People with YA3s are generally getting 5.85-5.9 talented players. Those trained up in a FA4 will be of a very similar magnitude to your ST buys.
Take, for example, https://rockingsoccer.com/en/soccer/info/player-1517769.
Talent 6.5, Passing 6.87, Tactics 4.6, trained in SP Specialist, Playmaker and Correct. 26 years and 39 weeks.
A YA3 Player with 5.85 talent, created at 14 years 26 weeks, trained in a FA4, will reach this potential at round about 26 years old. He should therefore be earning a similar amount of wage, maybe $20m per season. And this will just be a standard player. Watch out if you get a ST. I dread to think what my 19 year old 7.75 ST STR will be paid by the time he is 25 years old.
I cannot see why this is not considered unsustainable.
@Keju I do not think that, at the time of constructing these facilities, there was enough transparency into how dramatic the wage rises would be. While it should now be apparent, it seems to be being ignored. The whole point of this thread, however, was that these costs will mean that the TM will never recover unless a change is made.
A change of mind yes. Stop building and invest in players instead.
They'll have to spit the u21 cup into two tiers before long, those with the high level YA will be beyond the grasp of those with lower level YA's.
I'm trying to collect money for Stadium-11 and can't imagine how long it will take, still missing more than half of it. I abandoned trying to buy players and selling them for profit as all those players ended with negative balance. Even my 1000c player I sold couldn't bring me back money I spent for creating him. Economy has never been my good part.
Meanwhile I understand onuelver too (I know him personally already over 7 years): just debuting in League 1 where fighting against relegation is not good position for collecting money. I remember that for Stadium-10 upgrade he sold most of his first team and fell from promotion battle to relegation playoffs as played with very young squad (as he likes :D ).
I can´t understand how you guys build YA and FA before your stadium 11 
Stadium 11 is the most important thing to build, he his the 1st important objective to anyone, i think... economically talking.
Now, for the 1st time, i think i need to sell my young (2) St´s to follow the buildings
It is if you have the popularity and/or have other teams in the league that bring enough fans to fill your 200k stadium. Otherwise it is not financially viable until you have at least 8 million popularity.
Not everybody has that luxury.
Sir Alex, for example I did build FA before stadium level 11 because I don't have enough attendence to be allowed to build it.
I know that, you right but YA and FA has big maintenance, it will be very hard to build the stadium 11 after.... i think