Joddit >> sunday june 30 - 19:26

Only in your first response. There was a lot going on after that, which you are conveniently ignoring. 

But alright. Enough has been said, I suppose. 

Joddit >> sunday june 30 - 19:42

@Andrei

It really is not common courtesy to say case closed, while making (or renewing) an accusation to someone, even if you disagree with someone's earlier statements. 

Ronaldo César >> sunday june 30 - 22:17

I do not know who suggested raising building levels earlier, but to say that they did not spoil the transfer market is absurd. I am making a constructive criticism, I thought it would be better to have a junior center with smaller levels and that everyone can easily. Having golden talented players in the past was a privilege, it was cool to see 200 clubs fighting only for one athlete. The only thing that should increase would be the training center to levels that could not be maintained. Level 16 is not enough, because in a while the big clubs will cover with the money of the museum that can evolve infinitely, and that is another mistake in the game.

Taavi >> sunday june 30 - 22:20

I think this is a better system then the former 1b+ per player system , every supertalent having 50 bids because people want to sell for a profit later... less players, less transfers , smaller ammounts , its more realistic :)

Most of the whining is about not getting to sell Andy Carroll for 150m€

Stephen >> sunday june 30 - 22:31

Agree with you Taavi. This system is much improved.

davo >> monday july 1 - 08:27

The system where people are no longer having to pay $1bn for an average supertalent is better for those who are buying, but not for those who are selling. If the object of the change was to assist newer managers to catch up to more established ones then it is a monumental failure.

On a personal level, I am happy with the change. I have a FA4 and am building a YA4. I haven't bought a player for 8 seasons and am relatively unlikely to ever buy another player again, except for use as staff.

This is not a great result for managers with YC10s creating supertalents that are significantly worse than my regular youths. Having said this, I never sold a player for decent money so it is not imperative that transfer income is needed to progress to high levels.

Stephen >> monday july 1 - 08:55

@Davo - the object was to get rid of excess money from the game. That has definitely worked.

Numpty >> monday july 1 - 09:23, Edited monday july 1 - 09:29

Spot on Davo. 

The whole concept of "excess money" is fundamentally flawed. Money is just a number where the value changes with the amount available. In a closed system an increasing money supply simply means inflation and higher prices. Less money causes deflation and lower prices.  

The end result of money being spent on facilities rather than players means that instead of the wealth being more equally distributed around the game it's now held mostly by the larger clubs. 

So as Davo rightly points out the beneficiaries of the change are the managers of the largest clubs, who have been playing for a long time. They now have much better training facilities and can develop their own youths. 

If had one of the top clubs I would definitely be happy with it. :D

New managers expect to start at the bottom but there does need to be a realistic prospect of catching up at some point. There isn't.

The gap between the top clubs and the rest is now huge. Of course it can be closed - but the timescales to do so seem to be massive.

I'm okay with "difficult", I'm not so keen on the nearly impossible... 

If I had understood this aspect when I started playing the game I don't think that I would have continued past the first day. 

Taavi >> monday july 1 - 09:26, Edited monday july 1 - 09:36

@davo , if you never buy players thats bad management , you always have to fill spots to make ur team the best it can be ,  get 11 players around the same age that fit each other , sell 3 good players to buy 1 amazing player etc

The gap will get smaller again once the game stagnates , we dont have a sky is the limit system , you can only afford so much. Before new YA ,FA etc everyone had YC10 and TC10 , did the gap get smaller? still same teams in the top , its based on skill , effort and smart financing

And who ever says its impossible to catch up is just lazy

https://rockingsoccer.com/en/soccer/info/team-10232

Hes played half the time i have and is going to be better then me soon , because i cant be bothered making 30 trades per window

Numpty >> monday july 1 - 09:34, Edited monday july 1 - 09:47

@ Don

Agree with your advice. In fact, that's pretty much what I'm doing.

It's the timescales that are discouraging.

@ Taavi

Certainly looks like he's done a good job at that club.

However, he's been there for nearly 4 years and it also looks like it wasn't a starter club, so it already had facilities.