Mavi >> thursday january 13 - 02:04

This transfer is not closed because of appeal process. You've appealed but other person not. So either drop the appeal or convince other person to appeal so we can finalize this.

MAT >> thursday january 13 - 06:11

Ok. Thanks for info Mavi

Dragontao >> thursday january 13 - 06:28

While I get the point and admins are doing their best. It really needs the game developer to fix the market values. 

Until he does, then who is anyone to say a bid is excessive.

Adapting the rules to suit what they perceive is fair but when others do it to protect their players in certain circumstances, it's not allowed.

holt >> thursday january 13 - 07:19

Lol 2 weeks.

@Don-x What would you price him at?

davo >> thursday january 13 - 08:10

Assuming the $160m bid was a minimum bid:

It is hard to say how much he should be worth to someone. From my recent experience, an average 23 year old FA5 with the same level of scoring would maybe get a bid.

A 24 year old FA4 with that level of scoring would almost certainly not get a bid for $160m, or in the next round either. Might get a bid at $96m, but most wouldn't.

This seemingly makes this transfer a bit unusual.

However, who can say? I know I made several underbids of $200m FA5 players and several managers were unwilling to sell, which I find astonishing.

Maybe the winning bidder just liked the player or just decided that they'd had enough of waiting for a better player to be advertised. Who knows?

I would like to point out that I bought this player for the same price on the same day:

https://rockingsoccer.com/en/soccer/info/player-2215107

I suggest my money was better spent.

Numpty >> thursday january 13 - 09:36, Edited thursday january 13 - 09:38

Since we're speculating I would put the fair value of the player at around $50-80 million. In terms of the English league he's only a Championship player and would be pretty useless in the top league and continental level.  

You can get much better players for around $80-100 million.

Presumably he's not being trained in the last couple of weeks because he's still on transfer, but that won't make a significant difference. 

It was a very poor bid from the buyer in the first place, and I would have been delighted if I had been the seller and equally annoyed/frustrated when the transfer got blocked. But none of that is Mat's fault. 

The rule is "... simply that the transfer amount is so high compared to normal market prices that it would disrupt a fair game."

The trouble is that people make bad bids (and sales) all the time, and most of them probably go through so it can be frustrating when yours is the one that gets stopped. The system isn't perfect but it's designed to stop the worst cases and I guess it does that fairly well. 

There will always be cases that are borderline and the appeal process seems to me like a fair way of dealing with them. 

davo >> thursday january 13 - 10:26

It is a sad indictment of the state of the game though, when a player sells for less than a third of his "market value" and this is still classed as "so high compared to normal market prices that it would disrupt a fair game."  and to achieve an acceptably low price he would need to be relisted for 5-7 days :( Shame the developer can't just make a seemingly easy change in the minimum a player can be listed for, from 50% to 20%

Numpty >> thursday january 13 - 11:00

Absolutely @Davo. I think you've probably got 100% support there. 

I'd prefer 10% :)

Taavi >> thursday january 13 - 13:19

All market values should be lowered since theres less money in the game, max value used to be 229m and it was great

Tamaz >> thursday january 13 - 14:54

Aint gonna happen. Nobody will do it.

Game is dead

Zornig >> thursday january 13 - 15:15

It has been playing ever since 1 / 4-2021 when Vincent de Boer left the game

Numpty >> thursday january 13 - 16:11, Edited thursday january 13 - 16:24

Game is not dead. 

To quote Churchill,

"This is not the end, it is not even the beginning of the end, it is perhaps the end of the beginning."

" ... we shall not flag or fail. We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender ... "

Dragontao >> thursday january 13 - 19:38

Vincent is more Boris than Winston. He's hiding in a fridge somewhere, or at a cheese and wine party he's passing off as a work event.